I got both of my boys to come to this last shoot, they both had a blast. Neither is a 100% Traditional Archer, to keep the cost of arrows down they both shoot from the blue pin (they didn't turn their scorecards in). The oldest who is 21 shot a 278, the younger (19) shot a 279, we had a blast shooting and ribbing each other as ol' dad missed the target (once...perhaps twice). Thanks for a good time.