Jan 2 shoot - Indiana Traditional Bowhunters Association

john nail · Guru

Jan 2 shoot

flinttim · Guru

Always a treat to shoot with Cowles. I told him he'd just lose those fancy arrows. He said he made 3 dozen and that should last him thru the Febuary shoots .LOL

manny · Senior Member

Now that the first shoot is over and done, would like to get some input on how the set was .Would you like more open shots,more mixing of large and small targets, different set locations.Basically need suggestions on how the membership would like to see the course set for the remainder of the year.

-- Edited by manny on Sunday 2nd of January 2011 04:19:27 PM

milkman · Senior Member

loved the course but hate that dam groundhog in the ground lol! he freaks me out.

john nail · Guru

too hard. too discouraging to younger shooters. us old farts don't care

turkeycreek · Newbie

well this was my first shoot as a member,lost one of my arrows but thats ok, i think that the course was great, but the frog was scary smile

hillbillyking · Guru

Everyone shoots the same targets sound's fair too me ! Had a great time liked target sets it aint about my Arrows dieing of old age even though they look like they should biggrin

Dan · Guru

Glad ya'll had fun and still can't agree on sets - can't keep everyone happy biggrin

turkeycreek · Veteran Member

Thanks Dan, smile

milkman · Senior Member

loved the frog it reminded me of this past summer shooten frogs and fried frog legs but dont think i would like to find one as big as thet target he mite be chewen on my leg insted.

milkman · Senior Member

its not that i dont enjoy the groundhog it just always brings back bad memories when my buddy and i hunted for them thats how i always seen them half way out of the hole and every time i would shoot he'd get in the hole before the arrow could get there. them darn thangs!

hillbillyking · Guru

Hey Milk didnt see ya yesterday guess we went out again before yall got back ! Happy New Year Buddy !

milkman · Senior Member

happy new year to you too JR me and the gang cant wait to shoot your club this year!

hillbillyking · Guru

You Know on Target Sets !!!! OK Gotta step up on Soapbox now !Tuff set's only make you better may tear you down when you miss but really builds cofidence when you make the Shot ! I had a comment made to me yesterday that our club has some of the best shooters around in it - Wonder Why ! I strive for getting better every time i practice Thats my Goal and enjoying the shooting and the stakes for Kids and cubs are always set for better shots for them ! I think Target setter's do a heck of a job if someone dont like em " SHOW UP " And help " SET EM " I dont because of Back and Leg Injurys But dont complain either !! Am sure Billy & the few that do could use Help !!!!!!! Once again The shot's are the SAME for Everyone = FAIR !!! ok stepping off soapbox !! !!

john nail · Guru

JR, it ain't complaining when they ASK for opinions.

hillbillyking · Guru

OH OK !( I fell off soapbox anyway )!! !!

-- Edited by hillbillyking on Monday 3rd of January 2011 03:46:36 PM

-- Edited by hillbillyking on Monday 3rd of January 2011 04:45:25 PM

catfishon · Guru

billy you know i always like the hardest shots i can find ,and on our 2nd round me ,nail jim and tim was even picking harder shots to take.
but i have had 3 or 4 guys come with me the past couple years that said the course was to hard for them and wont come anymore .
really makes no difference to me but i wonder where the club might be in a few years if the sets are to hard for new guys to get involved ?
anyway i had a great time. i just wonder how long till im shooting by myself ?
since them guys i shoot with are over the hill and gettin close to a hundred ......lol

flinttim · Guru

I think the two Johns make very valid points. Sometimes we forget that we do this all the time and have been doing it a long time. I barely can remember starting out in this sport but one thing I do remember is not having a lot of money and not having a lot of arrows. You take a new guy who just spent $100 on some store bought arrows (not everyone makes their own right off the bat) and he either loses or breaks a third of them the first time around, and you likely have a guy who won't come back.. We really need to step back now and then and try to remember what it's like to be a new guy. Us old farts will make our own "impossible" and "follow the leader " shots on the second time around. The first round needs not to be so rough.

john nail · Guru

The Present should always be about the future, if you want something to last.
Just sayin'

hillbillyking · Guru

Im wth you feller's what ever we do! since ive been shooting wth you guys i shoot alot better then I did before Joining ITBA motivated me to practice more and I had a Really Good Time Sunday !! !! biggrin

-- Edited by hillbillyking on Tuesday 4th of January 2011 09:39:14 AM

flinttim · Guru

When I started out in muzzleloading lo these many years ago, the first shoot I went to , I asked who the best shot there was. That guy I knew I could learn from. And I became a better shot. Not all people care about such things, they are there just to have some fun. We tend to use the line "it'll make you a better shot " True, but if we scare a new guy away for whatever reason, we likely lose him forever. He'll likely end up going to somewhere like Sand Creek where the targets are out in the open and easy to hit. I'm not saying we should have sets like that, but we must take into account the newer shooters.

john nail · Guru

I shot Sporting Clays competitively all over the United States, and did pretty well at it. I found that the courses were laid out so that the very best shooters could shoot nearly perfect scores. This let everyone else shoot their average. The real tough courses were set up by F.I.T.A.S.C. and were all about top-level competition. No Newbies or Sunday shooters shot there.

flingshot · Guru

True you can't please everyone. However, we should make an attempt to please as as possible. Trying to stay in the middle of the road as much as possible will do that. Set a Few hard a few easy, and the rest somewhere in between.
When we can we should make some new route's,maybe zig zagging through the front part. That's my 2 cents.

manny · Senior Member

This input on ways to improve the sets and course is what has been lacking for last few years.Bits and pieces heard and then get forgotten.

with this input we all can be on the same page and can adjust things as needed.
Remember hearing someone last season refer to the course as being Billys course,WRONG,its our course,our club.

-- Edited by manny on Tuesday 4th of January 2011 08:52:51 PM

hillbillyking · Guru

For myself liked Sundays course but hafta agree that some newer shooters to Traditonal shooting may be discouraged wth it I know if we @ Fcsc set it that tuff for the Compound shooters they would have fit's and they have sight's & some scopes LOL !! !! And we need to encourage New people to Traditional Shooting !

-- Edited by hillbillyking on Tuesday 4th of January 2011 06:39:51 PM

twigflicker · Guru

Billy, Ron, Ron, Dennis and other target setters...

I appreciate all the work you guys do for the club... the countless hours cutting, trimming, setting targets, etc. it's easily forgotten... I for one am too lazy to get up to help set up

but I try and stay to help tear down if at all possible...

I think there are some good thoughts being thrown around and appreciate the input from the club members... I really think we have one of the best shoots around...

Many thanks to all who make it what it is!!!

Jonathan

bambi · Guru

Jon, I am more of a, behind the scenes, support, advisory, stop gap, rapid deployment, temporary, migrant, part time, type of worker hmm

john nail · Guru

bambi wrote:
Jon, I am more of a, behind the scenes, support, advisory, stop gap, rapid deployment, temporary, migrant, part time, type of worker

Dennis, don't forget "comic relief"

manny · Senior Member

All that and dont pull arrows either.

According to Cowles that is.

-- Edited by manny on Wednesday 5th of January 2011 04:20:13 PM

manny · Senior Member

Going to walk through new course sometime next week to clean and make a few new stations back there.If not to wet and muddy we may shoot the new 1st. half next shoot.Need to open up some of those stations and a couple new ones first.Need at least eight stations back there .