OK, I went deer hunting Sunday. Saw two bucks run past within range, with 4 dogs after them. The dogs had collars, and I don't want to shoot someone's hunting dogs. This is the third time we've caught them running on this place. If you can't catch them, how do you stop it?
Shoot shovel and shutup. If you know who owns 'em you can try to get them to keep them up. Most folks won't . The only way I've ever found that works well with deer chasin dogs is a zwickey through the ribs. I got no place on my land for someone else's dogs, especially when they are molestin' my hunt. If yer gonna kill 'em don't tell ANYONE about it. Shoot 'em and make sure you kill em quick you don't want them getting home with your arrow in em . Might get a concealed carry permit (if you don't already) and carry a handgun for the job, extends your range a bit.We had a t least 15 or so dogs running through my family's areaa for a while, my uncle, mybrother and I have wittled away the roamin' types.
This is Dennis. Be careful shootin someones dog. Around here some of these rednecks would consider that a declaration of war. Me included
John your an old dog man so Im suprised you havent thought of this. You have to put yourself in the dog's shoes, so to speak. You see them dogs are seein it different than you. As far as their concerned you're messin up their hunt. They have done gone around and marked that whole place as their territory. They say amongst themselves let's go huntin boys. What if that old bald deer hunter is there. Why he's got no business huntin our deer. We'll just run him up a tree, or dirt roll him if we catch him in there. Here's where the solution comes in.
I just so happen to have, for sale, some guranteed Alpha Dog urine. Their getting $60.00 an ounce for some of the deer urine so you can see why this is twice as expensive. It comes from a special breed that has the guts to go down a badger hole and start a fight. Ounce for ounce ther aint no tuffer dog alive.
All you have to do is walk around your hunting area and dribble this Alpha Dog Elixer on the trees. The higher up the better. It will also help if you take and scuff up the ground with your hind legs like a dog does. Kind of a mock scrape. Once them dogs get a wiff they'll know it's someone elses yard now. They will stay on the porch, and be afraid to mess around the woods.
Just let me know how much you need. I'll give you the discount price of $100. an ounce. Glad I could help. DEN
I agree with Dennis, John. Shootin the dog would be an act of war in my neck of the woods also, one that may end in a feud that would put the Hatfield/ McCoy arguement to shame!LOL! I would try and find out who owns the dogs, and tell them that some unethical hunter may shoot them if they are not kept up during deer season. Usually gets the point across. But what the hell do I know? I like Dennis' idea better, and what a deal for Alpha Dog Super Urine! Bryan
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The only good deer runnin dog is a dead deer runnin' dog! If ya like yer pups then keep 'em on yer own place . Can ya tell we've had a problem as well?
John, have you tried? Here boy Chris is right, people have to be responsible for their pets. One of the most pitiful creatures alive are feral dogs. Too many get dumped on country roads. Dogs are one of the first domesticated animals and their close association with people have taken a lot of the wolf out of them. I'll bet those dogs aren't eating many deer.
How about this. When a dog bites, they hold the owner responsible. Take your video camera along and film them running a deer. If they live around there it shouldn't be too hard to find out where. I think Indiana has a hunter harassment law. Haul the owners to court. It might be the first time a man sues a dog. When you get your big settlement, we can take off pig hunting in style somewhere. The rural dog owners will find out it's expensive to let their dogs harass hunters. Good luck with your problem. DEN
Jeez, Dennis! That's a $10,000 cure. Can I borrow one of those dart guns from your campus and tranquilize them when they run past, then put muzzles on 'em?
I found out today that some of those Batesville Rednecks are going to gun hunt there next weekend. I imagine that will be the end of the dogs....
Sorry about the delay on my response, but a little thing called a hard drive died and wouldn't you know it that is one of the more important parts of a computer. So after a new one was installed and the reloading of the important stuff I happened to have backed up, I can surf the net again occasionally. Interesting timing on your question John. A guy from Anderson recently had to pay $1000.00 to the owner of the bird dog he shot two years ago while bowhunting deer. Not to mention the chastising he took from the Judge. The simple solution in these cases always seems to be shoot the dog. It's not the dog's fault. They are only doing what nature meant for them to do. It's an owner problem if it is a constant problem. The only advice I can give is to find out whose dogs they are. If it is close to your house I'm sure you already know. Then your options are to speak with the owner and try to solve the problem as gentlemen. He may not even know his dogs are ruining your hunt. Your other option is to contact your local animal control officer and have the owner cited for allowing his dog(s) to run loose. I don't know of a county in Indiana that doesn't have some variation of an animal control law. Remember that cruelty to animals is now a Class D Felony in Indiana. Shooting a dog easily fits under this statute, and unfortunately to the uninformed jury person shooting one with a bow and arrow would be worse. I know the law sometimes seems to favor the criminal instead of the victim in cases like this, but it is best to let the wheels of justice handle these situations, no matter how slow they turn. Most of you won't like or agree with this answer, but it is the legal manner in which to proceed. So let's not have any CO bashing here. As a rule we don't get involved in domestic animal complaints anyway. Also, remember that we as bowhunters, especially traditional bowhunters, must always take the "high road" to maintain a positive image. The anti's are just waiting for a bowhunter to lose his temper and do something that portrays us as slobs. So always think of the rest of us before making a hasty ill thought out solution to a temporary problem.
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I'm with you on the "temporary problem", I've never experienced a long term dog running deer problem, at least not with the same dog or dogs. We have it happen a time or two a season and rarely is it the same dog. Yes, I have been pretty hot at the moment but not hot enough to go chase down the owner, usually I've cooled down by then, or I felt that my energy has been better put towards hunting.
That said, don't go digging around for bones on my property .
I didn't mean to start an arguement about shoot/don't shoot. I'm a dog lover and wouldn't shoot a dog that wasn't growling at me. (Cats are another story) I was just trying to get other folk's opinion. If it was really a big problem, I'd set a box trap and maybe catch one that way. The animal control officers in my area are enjoying a "Political Plum" and their response was to catch the dogs, and then they'd come get them. I can live with it, I just don't like it. It isn't my property.
You might invest in some live traps, then take the dogs to the animal shelter where they will put em down after a time.
On a side note one guy on here said that it's a class d felony to shoot a dog destroying property,(cruelety to animals? Now there's a slippery slope) but we can feed them, house them and then put em down as long as it's the goverment doing it? Sounds like typical goverment buracrecy. Personally I would shoot em and claim they attacked me . Can't fault someone for protecting oneself can they ?????