Here's a dumb question for you all...How do the guys that shoot three under and anchor at their eye do it? I have shot split finger and currently shoot three under and anchor at the corner of my nose and cheek. I have never been a good shot, but managed to kill my fair share of deer and a couple hogs. But it seems like the guys that really smoke the courses at 3D shoots do the anchor at the eye thing. I'd be interested in learnin how it's done. Do they site down the shaft? I'm sure the nock point is completely different. Hell, it might be too complicated for me. I'm just used to picking up my bow and whatever arrows I have available and shooting a few, but it would be nice to be a little more confident. I'd like to give it a go if it's still simple, uncomplicated shooting.
Guys, I think the cryin is going to start with that shooting style as soon as someone has a nock break etc. on a shot and sticks an arrow in their eye. Take this from someone who just got their eyesight back, you don't want to loose your eye. I think split or 3 under can be just as accurate, as long as you PRACTICE. I will probably get flamed for this, but the arrow in the eye shot to me is a real good substitute for a pin sight. I'm guilty of not practicing enough. We have some really good shooters who are shooting the traditional styles of anchor, so I don't think sticking an arrow in your eye to shoot is a requirement. My opinion is that this style of anchor ranks right up there with string walking. I am certainly not wanting to stir the pot, but with the amount of controversey that is currently going on behind the scenes about fellas shooting like that, I think it is bound to come up sooner or later. Competition is a great thing, but if it gets to the point that we are looking for every single competitive edge to beat the next guy, we may as well go to shooting training wheels. To me, the whole idea of shooting traditional is to learn my equipment, practice, and be the best shot I can be. Doesn't matter to me if I "burn it up" on the 3D range, I hear foam doesn't taste very good anyways........ Just my nickle, Bryan
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I can see the zero's comin out of that turkey's mouth as I walk to the target!
it's "gunbarreling" they look down the arrow and figure the place to put the point of the arrow. I think it's probably the quickest way to learn to shoot, but I learned the old way.
Not to put it down, but it seems to me it would take too long under hunting conditions.
PS: Some very good shots still use the split finger method, including a few recent State Chanps.
4H instructors teach 3 under. They say it gives quicker success. It's the "everything now " mentality. Split finger for me.
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Tim, I agree. Split finger( mediteranian) style and pinching the string are the REAL traditional ways to shoot. I don't even have a problem with shooting 3 under( yes I'm guilty of shooting 3 under). I think the contoversey comes from putting the arrow right under or in the center of your eye, gun barreling as John said. I think this stems more from anchor point, than from your style of shooting. I think sighting down the arrow versus a more traditional anchor where you are either shooting truly by instinct or gap shooting is where the gray area is. To me, it looks very unsafe. I do think it gives a distinct advantage, because a lot of the judgement over sight picture is eliminated, and it becomes more of a " point and shoot" venture. I know it isn't truly string walking, but it does create a sighting system of sorts. I worry more about someone putting an eye out than loosing to that style of shooter on the course, to each his own. It does seem to be sweeping our club and creating controversy though. I have heard it said a couple of times that maybe we should form an open class of shooter for folks who choose to use this sort of sighting method. Of course, more classes means a more complicated scoring system, ect. and do we really need that? I'm just trying to bring the situation to light for discussion, guys, not argue. I'm going to continue to shoot my way, and I don't care how someone else anchors. I do think, though, that it may prove to be unsafe to someones eyesight at some point. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Now my 10 cents, Bryan
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I can see the zero's comin out of that turkey's mouth as I walk to the target!
I've heard the three under "you'll put your eye out" deal as long as I've been involved in trad (not long compared to others) and I really don't understand it. All of the bow's energy is moving away from the anchor point (the eye), I can't see how a broken nock could have a negative effect.
Maybe if the string broke, or even a limb, then the rearward force of your hand might sweep the shooting eye, but couldn't that happen even with split finger style also?
Still, I think they are cheaters
No doubt that it is a very effective method for trad 3D.
Well, I'm a slow learner anyways. I'm still trying to master shooting three under and anchoring next to my nose. Ditto on practicing, very guilty of not shooting enough at home.
Woody, that's the beauty of our club, shoot any way you want. The restrictions are with the equipment. I've seen Ron and Billy break numerous strings and bows and they've not put an eye out yet. Mabey their just lucky, or unlucky I don't know.
Personally I'm more interested in hunting than target shooting. Some say 3-d is reailistic shooting but it aint even close in my opinion. I shot one of my bows 3-under one time in a moment of weakness and it sounded like THWACK. If your hunting and want a second shot at the squirrel or whatever, that's not the way to go. Perhaps fish might not hear it but, I think I've read where most if not all bows are louder 3-under. That alone is enough to make me not want to shoot that way. Also I think if you look down your arrow like a shotgun, I think you have to aim it somewhere below the target at certain distances, directly at it at some specific yardage, and over the top at longer ranges. This workes on stationary targets if you are real good at range estimation. If your estimation is off though the arrow will shoot exactly where you aim. One way to compensate is to shoot real high poundage bows with light arrows. I'm not too sure that that's a real good combination for hunting, especially after freezing all morning. Another thing how are you gonna get a shot at something running like a rabbit how are you gonna do that. Not to mention something running at you like an enraged ground hog or something. Gotta go, be back soon.
Ok. Break time is over. To me just being able to react, at the moment of truth is better than having to think all this range stuff out and make all these decisions. To me it would seem best if the only decision to make would be to shoot or not. That's where practice comes in. When you know you can make the shot, then it should be autopilot from then on. One time when I first started going up to the club I decided to pass up all the shots that I didn't feel good about. I didn't lose any arrows that day. But with gas prices like they are from now on I'm shootin at them all. Hunting is different. Any way if you are one of Ronalds Three Under Wonders, or if your one of Nails Naturals its all fair because you can shoot any way you want. That's what I'm gonna do.
woody dont let dennis fool you ! here is his secret shooting style. he has someone else look at a spot for him ,then when he misses it's there fault for not loking at the right spot.....hee hee hee
I do believe, though, that a man still has to make the shot: mediterranean, 3-under, face-walking, etc. You still need to make the shot. You can get me the same .50 cal sniper rifle that the young man from the sniper corp just knocked off a Taliban fighter 1/2 mile away... and I can't make the shot. The man still has to make the shot! Sooo, shoot what you like and enjoy it
